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GOSHEN/RAMESES
Some early 14th Passover advocates believe that the Israelites departed Egypt, from the city of Rameses.  Moses recorded Rameses
as their point of departure – but was it the city of Rameses?  If the Israelites departed from the city of Rameses then Goshen would
be their point of departure rather than the city of Rameses.

Exodus 12.37, "Then the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred
thousand men on foot, besides children."  

Numbers 33:2-3, "Moses wrote down the
starting points of their journeys...according to their starting
points: They departed from Rameses (Note: there is no mention of the Israelites going to the city of
Rameses) in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month:  on the day after
(on the morrow
after)
the Passover the children of Israel went out with boldness in the sight of all the Egyptians."  

Verse 5, "Then the children of Israel moved from Rameses and camped at Succoth."  

Why did Moses not say that Goshen was the starting point of their journey?  After all, the
Israelites lived in Goshen.  In fact, he did say that Goshen was their starting point – when
we properly understand what he said!  
Goshen and Rameses were the same place!
(Rameses was Goshen – Goshen was Rameses!)
Moses said nothing about the Israelites traveling from Goshen to Rameses because they
were living in Rameses!  

Genesis 47.5-6, "Then Pharaoh spoke to Joseph, saying, 'Your father and your brothers have come to
you.  The land of Egypt is before you.  Have your father and brothers dwell
in the best of the land; let
them dwell in the land of Goshen...'"  

Genesis 47.11, (5 verses later), "And Joseph situated his father and his brothers, and gave them a
possession in the land of Egypt,
in the best of the land, in the land of Rameses, AS PHARAOH HAD
COMMANDED."

Goshen and Rameses were the same place!  In no place does the Bible say that the
Israelites left the
city of Raamses, which the Israelite slaves built for Pharaoh in Exodus 1:
11.  The KJV translators even gave a different spelling when referring to the city of
Raamses.  Rameses was the Israelites’ home!  They began their journey out of Egypt
when they left their home, on the morrow after the Passover!  They did not camp at
Rameses – they lived in their houses!  They departed from Rameses and their first camp
was at Succoth.  There is no mention of pitching their camp at Rameses!  Rameses was
their home!  If they had gone to the city of Raamses, that would have been their first
camping and Moses would have named it the second point of departure.

Some early 14th Passover advocates want to believe that the Israelites left from a city
instead of from the countryside, thinking that this helps prove an early 14th Passover.  
The Bible does not indicate a city departure.  The gathering of 3 million people, their
animals, their carts, and all their belongings into a city would have been staggering!  Do
not let someone confuse you with his convoluted reasoning about the Israelites leaving
from the city of Raamses.  This is only getting away from the issue at hand, throwing up a
smoke screen to get your mind off the main issue.  Not realizing that Rameses was the
land of Goshen, some have gotten off-track in their zeal to collect reams of logistics
based on a theory of straw.

Note: when the Bible uses such phrases as, "on that very same day...the Lord brought the
children of Israel out of the land of Egypt..." or, "...remember this day in which you went
out of Egypt..." it is using a figure of speech, in part, which means literally:  the day when
they
STARTED their journey out of Egypt.  They did not literally leave Egypt until they
crossed the Red Sea, 7 days later.  A logical translation of “went out” would be
“departed.”  “Brought out” is a figure unless the scripture is referring to the Israelites
crossing the Red Sea.